2016 grow log... With cheap LED lights!

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  1. Flymo24

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    Hi all,

    I decided to start a grow log over 2016.

    Its been a few years since growing and in previous years I've not had great success with my plants in the early stages, so I came up with an interesting plan.

    I needed a way to start my plants early indoors and provide them with enough light just until the warmer weather comes along and they are ok to go outside during the day; decent lighting is expensive and power hungry, so that really wasn't an option for my casual chilli growing.

    So the below is as a result of my genius thinking :) Facebook-20160203-082419.jpg

    its a 15 w LED light (blue and red) which was £20, connected to a plug timer which was 2 or 3 quid and a 60L plastic storage container. I know what you are thinking, and its the same as I was thinking; this is never going to work well.

    I lined the inside with tin foil to reflect light back into the container, and potted up some seeds -

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    a week and a half (or thereabouts) later, we had this -

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    All is well so far! The variety's I have planted are - Jalapeno, Hungarian Hot Wax, Trinidad Scorpion Morouga & Red and Yellow Bhut Jolokia. There is 2 of every variety.

    The following week gave promising results considering the plants have had zero natural light, so here's week 3, just under 2 weeks since germination -

    Facebook-20160203-083750.jpg The seedlings here are 2x Jalap, Scorp. 2x hot wax and a red bhut.

    Week 4: 3 weeks since germination -

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    I can hardly believe the success, the plants are doing great and appear to be healthy. I need to keep an eye on moisture levels; as you can see there is some green growth on the soil and the bottom of the tray. 1 scorp and the yellow bhuts have yet to have made an appearance, but there's still time yet.

    This set up continues to amaze me, and the plants now dwarf how they look in this photo, but more on that on Sundays update.

    :)

    Jordan.
     
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  2. Mart_UK

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    Very nice. Shows the difference lights make. These are mine without lights after nearly 4 weeks.

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    Week 5: 4 weeks since germination; still growing and not dead yet! :)

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    the conditions seem to be more favourable by the less exotic species, although they do have a longer season so could be that
     
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    Looking good. I'd update you on mine but after 4 weeks they still look the same as the pic above. On the plus side a couple of cayanne's are staring to grow their 2nd set of leaves.
     
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    Get a photo up anyways!
     
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    Hi, great solution, a question please.

    Do you germinate your Chilli seeds first, somewhere warm and then place them in your light box? Or do you germinate them from the start in the light box?

    I had a similar idea…. Though not as well thought out or implemented as your experiment. With your success I am now encouraged to take this further.
    I used an old plastic storage container, an old lawnmower cable and a spare low cost 6 watt (40Watt equivalent) LED bulb. The only part purposefully purchased was a lamp holder for £3.
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    The storage container was lined with kitchen Aluminium foil using a glue stick.
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    Hey Jon,

    I started them off inside the container itself.

    I did have then next to a radiator to speed up the process a bit with germination, but the LED's provided a small amount of warmt anyways.

    I'm sure you will see equal success with your set up, it really goes to show that if you are growing on a small scale then cheap lighting can be affective.

    The less exotic varieties seem to be struggling in this environment however, but the issue is that it is difficult to control soil moisture as the water tends not to evaporate. It could work better with a heated mat.

    Keep us posted with your results.
     
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    Thanks. One final question.

    Your LED light. Is it 15w actual or 15w equivalent. Trying to determine if my lamp is sufficient or underpowered.
     
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    Not sure if I'm honest, they were from Amazon advertised as 15w
     
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    Week 6: 5 weeks since germination.

    The taller jalapenos seem to be growing outwards as opposed to upwards now they are getting closer to the light; not sure is that's good or bad but from what I have red its down to one of the particular colours in the red/blue spectrum.

    The other varieties seem to be lagging; I may leave them next to a radiator to dry and dry them out a tad.

    I've not had to water them for weeks which is far from ideal.

    Nothing yet to really cause any concern.

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    A very good solution. Can you make the bulb height adjustable? I only ask as with those watts, the plants could be just a few cm away from the bulbs. Maximise your wattage.
     
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    yeah probably not a bad shout, I think some string would do the trick!
     
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    2016-02-17 20.00.29.jpg 2016-02-17 23.16.13.jpg 2016-02-17 23.16.36.jpg Here they are now at 5 weeks. I think you're winning.
     
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    Week 7: 6 weeks since germination.

    I've had to take the Jalapenos & one hot wax out of the 'grow box'; it seems that now they are close to the light its having a negative effect on health growth, or I guess it could just be a deficiency. either way they are too big and are causing the exotics to not get enough light.
    They have a new home which is my windowsill.

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    And that leaves the rest of the gang in the grow box -

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    Here is what I mean about the leaves -

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    But we have flowers so something is going right :)

    I will start using the chilli focus to see if this resolves the 'crumpled leaf' issue.

    more next week
     

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    Looking good.
     
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    Yeah, thinking I'm going to be giving a lot of Cayannes away. Especially as I've just been given seeds for another 9 more exotic chillies such as Infinity peppers, Bahaman Goat, Aji Pineapple, Madballz. Plenty more too. My Mrs is gonna go mad!
     
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    These are looking awesome. Good effort.
     
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    Week 8: 7 weeks since germination

    Not much to report, exotics are still slow, hot wax and Jalapenos are doing ok.

    The Jalapenos that are out of the box are still showing odd signs of 'crumpled leaves'; when I popped them back into the grow box this wasn't an issue. I don't really know why its happening so I'll have to keep an eye on it.

    Maybe the pots are now too small??

    Jalapenos have probably grown another 2-3cm which is amazing. Facebook-20160228-062700.jpg Facebook-20160228-062707.jpg Facebook-20160228-062713.jpg Facebook-20160228-062718.jpg

    As you can see the windowsill plants are not looking the happiest; I might try and source a larger storage box to set the lights up into.
     
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